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MINUTES of a Meeting of Tatsfield Parish Council held on the 14th January 2008 in the Parish Room, Westmore Green, Tatsfield commencing at 8.00 p.m. |
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Present: Mr Ian Mitchell (in the chair) Mr Jon Allbutt Mr Giles Hawkes Mrs Carol Jordan Mrs Eileen Pearce |
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Mrs Sandy Philibert Mr Greg Watkins |
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In Attendance: Mr John Sandiford (Clerk), |
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Mr Bob David (Tandridge DC Councillor) |
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Mr David Hodge (Surrey CC Councillor) |
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(1) Greg Watkins declared a personal prejudicial interest in Planning Application No.08/0006 relating to his property Applegarth, Greenway, and in respect of Application No.08/0003 relating to the adjoining semi-detached property Bramblepatch, Greenway. He left the room during the discussion of both those matters. |
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2. Minutes |
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The Minutes of the meeting held on the 10th December 2007 were approved and signed as a correct record |
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(b) Affordable Housing Needs Survey: Carol Jordan confirmed that the questionnaire and accompanying letter had been circulated with the January edition of the Parish Magazine requiring responses by 31 January. As yet there had been 49 responses. It was unanimously agreed that a public meeting should be held in the WI Hall to encourage residents to register their interests and to assist with the completion of forms. It was agreed that Carol Jordan would liaise with the Rural Housing Enabler, Mona Johanssen, as to the best time to have such a meeting. |
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4. Tatsfield School |
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The Chairman indicated that, following the last meeting, it had been anticipated that the necessary documents would be ready for signature before the Christmas holiday and he had warned members that he would be calling an extraordinary meeting for that purpose. However at the very last moment, Surrey CC had indicated that it was not ready to sign up because there were still matters to be finalised with Mr Reeve, the owner of the other land involved. As a consequence there would almost certainly be a month’s delay. The latest information was that there had been a meeting between Surrey and Mr Reeve and it was hoped that the several legal issues raised by Mr Reeve could be resolved by the end of January. He expressed extreme disappointment at the delay and indicated that everything would continue to be done to try to ensure that all the documentation was in place so that the matter could proceed when these difficulties had been overcome. |
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6. Finance |
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(a) Grants: The Clerk reported that a formal request had been received from David Bishop for a grant of £150 towards the expenses of the Christmas Carol Sing-a-long held on the 21st December. Details of the request had been circulated to members. It was unanimously agreed that a grant of £150 should be made as a contribution to the expenses of the evening. |
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7. Highways & Rights of Way |
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(a) Upgrading of FP25 (The Avenue to Clarks Lane) to Bridleway: Eileen Pearce confirmed that she would ensure that she would submit a suggestion for the bridleway to run parallel with and separate from the footpath so as to ensure that the surface of the footpath was not damaged by horse traffic in such a way as to make it impassable for pedestrians. |
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(b) General Highway Matters: Sandy Philibert indicated that she had circulated a report to members but wished to draw attention to the fact that she was concerned that some repairs that had been carried out were likely to re-occur because either the repair had not been carried out properly or, in one case, not carried out at all, despite apparently having been recorded by the contractor as having been carried out. She intended to monitor these repairs carefully. |
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David Hodge indicated that he had noted these matters and would be looking into them. He would arrange a site meeting with the Roads Steward to ensure that these were dealt with. |
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(d) Rights of Way Network: Eileen Pearce indicated she was holding a meeting of interested parties on Monday 28 January with the object of trying to improve relations between walkers and riders over shared routes, maintenance of rights of way and the expansion of the network of routes round Tatsfield. It was her intention to discuss the possibility of a permissive right of way from Tatsfield School to the commencement of FP23 opposite the Church. |
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8. Notified Matters |
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(a) ESPLG Tandridge Group: Eileen Pearce indicated only a few councils had attended the last meeting and so no decision had been reached. She had been asked to indicate Tatsfield’s view of the future shape of the Group. It was agreed that as it was only a liaison group, no formal constitution was required and the Group did not need to be affiliated to SCAPTC. It was suggested that the Group’s appointment of a representative to the Local Standards Committee might need a formal constitution but this was a matter to be looked into. |
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9. Reports from Members and Outside Organisations |
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(a) County Councillor: David Hodge reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Tandridge Local Committee: He invited applications for a grant from local projects as there was some money remaining in the current year’s budget. Applications were required by 15 February. |
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(2) Budget 2008/9: It seemed likely that the Council Tax would be increased by 4-5%. |
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(b) District Councillor: Bob David reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Budget 2008/9: Surrey Police had recently made a presentation to Tandridge DC to demonstrate how financially squeezed it was as a result of reductions in Government funding. It was taking a number of measures to save money and these included the reduction from four divisions to three. |
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(c) Police: Nothing to report. |
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(d) Biggin Hill Airport: The next meeting of the Consultative Committee would take place on 17 January. |
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(e) Transport Matters: Greg Watkins had nothing to report. |
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(f) Tatsfield Youth Project: Jon Allbutt reported that there had been a meeting with representatives of Surrey Clubs for Young Persons for general discussions. |
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(g) Tatsfield Community Responders: Jon Allbutt reported that it had been a busy Christmas and New Year as the Responders were being asked more often to attend emergencies in Biggin Hill and Warlingham. There were still difficulties with communications equipment. Training of volunteers continued. |
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(h) Parish Emergency Plan: Jon Allbutt reported that he kept in contact with both Surrey CC and Tandridge DC to keep up with developments. He still wanted to acquire an emergency generator for the Village Hall and hoped to bring forward details of the costs involved. |
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10. Parish Council Property |
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(a) Surgery & Parish Room; Giles Hawkes reported that the repair to the internal door was still in hand and would be dealt with shortly, that he would arrange to circulate details of the proposed broadband connection for consideration by members. He also reported that the long-standing water leak in the Surgery had been repaired. |
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(b) Pond: Sandy Philibert reported approval had been obtained for the warning sign and it was agree that she would arrange for a doubled-sided sign to be produced and erected. |
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(a) Westmore Green Playground: Giles Hawkes reported that he had not yet arranged a meeting with interested parties but would give the matter urgent attention. Jon Allbutt indicated that he was pleased with the attention to routine maintenance that was now being given to the playground by Tandridge DC |
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(b) Pond: Jon Allbutt reported that Alec Baxter Brown of the Surrey CC Downlands Project had just submitted a report but he had not had time to consider its contents. He hoped to circulate colleagues with details and recommendations for consideration at the next meeting. |
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12. Meetings to Attend/Correspondence- |
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(a) Tatsfield Horticultural Society: The Clerk indicated that he had received a request from the Society to hold its Annual Plant Sale on Westmore Green on Saturday, 10th May 2008. This was agreed. |
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13. Any Other Business |
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(a) Westmore Road Pavement: Eileen Pearce indicated that she proposed writing to the owner of the old Post Office Stores seeking permission to affix a handrail. |
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The Meeting closed at 10.42 p.m. |
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Subjects raised in Public Adjournments |
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1. Christmas Carol Sing-a-long |
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2. Repair or Re-erection of ROW Signs |
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APPENDIX A - PLANNING |
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06/0740 New Tatsfield School Approval of revised details |
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07/1632 98 Paynesfield Road Comments |
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CURRENT APPLICATIONS:- |
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07/1900 The Old Ship, Westmore Green |
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MINUTES of a Meeting of Tatsfield Parish Council held on the 11th February 2008 in the Parish Room, Westmore Green, Tatsfield commencing at 7.30 p.m. |
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Present: Mr Ian Mitchell (in the chair) Mr Jon Allbutt Mrs Carol Jordan Mrs Sandy Philibert Mr Greg Watkins |
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In Attendance: Mr John Sandiford (Clerk), |
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Mr Bob David (Tandridge DC Councillor) |
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Mr David Hodge (Surrey CC Councillor) |
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1. (a) Apologies Mrs Eileen Pearce and Mr Giles Hawkes |
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The Chairman reported that Eileen Pearce was in hospital and that, although her condition had improved, it would be some time before she would be able to resume her duties as a councillor. The Chairman expressed the best wishes of all members for her recovery and return to Tatsfield. |
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2. Minutes |
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The Minutes of the meeting held on the 14th January 2008 were approved and signed as a correct record. |
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4. Tatsfield School |
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The Chairman indicated that the only sign of progress to be provided by Surrey County Council towards signature of documents for the conveyance of the L-shaped field and associated matters in connection with the building of the new school had been an email from the Surrey officer responsible for the sale of our land and that of Gordon Reeve. |
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6. Finance |
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(a) Grants: The Clerk reported that a formal request for a grant had been received from Surrey Air Ambulance and he had circulated details of the request to all members. It was unanimously agreed that a grant of £250 would be made. |
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7. Highways & Rights of Way |
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(a) General Highway Matters: Sandy Philibert had circulated a detailed report to all members and this was noted. |
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(b) Permissive extension of FP23 – Church Hill: In the absence of Eileen Pearce, Bob David reported that some 20 people had been present at a recent meeting to discuss this proposal and also the use of Public Footpaths and Bridleways generally. He had agreed to approach the owner of the Golf Club to see whether he would grant a permissive right for pedestrians along this part of the golf course. It had also been agreed that the Parish Council should be asked to re-publish “Tatsfield Walks”. |
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8. Notified Matters |
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Village Centre Notice Board: It was agreed that additional space was needed and consideration should be given to this in the light of the changes due to be made in the Village Centre when it might be possible to adapt the existing bus shelter for use for the display of notices. |
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9. Reports from Members and Outside Organisations |
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(a) County Councillor: David Hodge reported on the following matters: |
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(1) Council Tax: He indicated that this would increase by 4.8% for the coming financial year and he summarised the reasons for this. |
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(4) Tandridge Local Committee: He had received requests from Tatsfield in Bloom, Tatsfield Scouts. Tatsfield Responders and Tatsfield WI for financial assistance and he was giving these attention. |
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(b) District Councillor: Bob David reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Council Tax: The District Council increase had yet to be approved but was almost certain to be 4.4%. |
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(c) Police: The Chairman reported that the Chief Constable was leaving to take up a senior position with the Metropolitan Police. He also reported that, as yet, no new PCSO had been appointed for Tatsfield but he understood that a new officer had been promised. |
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(d) Biggin Hill Airport: The Chairman reported that he had attended a meeting of the Joint Liaison Committee on 17 January and movements at present were approximately 70,000 p.a. as against the maximum permitted number of 125,000 annually. |
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(e) Parish Emergency Plan: Jon Allbutt reported that he had circulated a report as to the feasibility of providing a generator to supply power to the Village Hall and the Surgery/Parish Room in the event a power failure. After Discussion, it was agreed that consultation should take place with the Emergency Planning Officers for Surrey CC and Tandridge to try to evaluate the risk involved of an event occurring that would justify the expense of providing such equipment. Jon Allbutt promised to arrange such a meeting. |
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10. Parish Council Property |
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(a) Surgery & Parish Room: In the absence of Giles Hawkes, there was nothing to report. |
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11. Parish Owned Land |
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(a) Westmore Green Playground: John Allbutt indicated that he had taken responsibility for this matter and would be setting up the meeting. |
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(b) Parish Land: Jon Allbutt agreed to obtain an up-to-date estimate for the cost of fencing the Shaw Road Triangle and other areas where similar fencing was required. This would include Kemsley Wood where there was a need to define the boundaries on a permanent basis in order to encourage walkers and discourage horse riders and non-pedestrian traffic. The Clerk was asked to enquire whether Surrey CC would be prepared to install kissing gates on FP570. |
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(c) Ricketts Hill Road - Application for Access: The Clerk reported that he had indicated to the resident the terms on which the right would be granted but had so far had no response. |
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(d) Pond: Jon Allbutt had circulated the detailed report produced by the Surrey Downlands Project and it was agreed that the following work should be put in hand |
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(a) Removal of the two weeds identified as being invasive; |
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(e) Millennium Wood: Jon Allbutt had circulated a report and he proposed that |
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1. The Parish Council continues discussions with the Surrey Downlands Project Team to develop a management programme to restore this wood. In particular to prepare costings and to identify sources of funding. |
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2. The Parish Council to encourage and support a local group of volunteers to assist this process. |
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3. The Parish Council with its partners to consult locally on all proposals to ensure that what we do has community approval. |
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4. To bring forward progress reports and further proposals for future meetings of the Parish Council |
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12. Meetings to Attend/Correspondence: None |
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13. Any Other Business |
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(a) Summer Concert: It was agreed that the concert would be held in June and that Jon Allbutt would fix the exact date once he had established the availability of the Green and of the Lewisham Concert Band. |
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The Meeting closed at 10.33 p.m. |
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Subjects raised in Public Adjournments |
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1. NONE |
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PLANNING APPENDIX A |
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RESULTS:- |
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Approved |
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07/1878 Woodside, Parkwood Road |
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07/1930 The Spinney Maesmaur Road |
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Refused/withdrawn |
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CURRENT APPLICATIONS:- |
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08/0068 Woodside, Parkwood Road |
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08/0080 Grenaun, Parkwood Road |
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Recommendation: To be considered by next Planning Councillor |
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08/0173 Rosefield House, Cudham Road |
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Present: Mr Ian Mitchell (in the chair), Mr Jon Allbutt, Mr Giles Hawkes, Mrs Carol Jordan, |
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Mrs Sandy Philibert, Mr Greg Watkins |
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In Attendance: Mr John Sandiford (Clerk), Mr Bob David (Tandridge DC Councillor), Mr David Hodge (Surrey CC Councillor) and 3 parishioners. |
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2. Minutes |
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The Minutes of the meeting held on the 11th February 2008 were approved and signed as a correct record. |
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4. Tatsfield School |
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The Chairman reported that he had received a message from Surrey County Council stating that the County Council was getting very close to completing the documentation on the land elements of the transfer of land belonging to the Parish Council and to Mr Reeve and there were no legal/covenant issues outstanding. However, a fresh version of the documents and plans had been received on Thursday 6 March but these were defective. One plan appeared to relate to the land deal with Mr Reeve; another was incomplete and there was a reference in one document to an apparently non-existent part of another document. In addition there were a number of textual points that still needed to be settled. Nevertheless, there were no points of disagreement preventing an early signing of documents, but this had been the case for many months. |
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6. Finance |
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(a) Clerk’s Remuneration: The Chairman reported that the Clerk’s salary would be raised retrospectively to £8712 p.a. in accordance with the National Scale for the year commencing 1 April 2007. This was an increase of £211.32. |
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7. Highways & Rights of Way |
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(a) General Highway Matters: Sandy Philibert had circulated a detailed report to all members that covered |
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the following matters:. |
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(1) Old Lane: The drain had been cleared out. |
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· Clarks Lane gullies in the kerb stones had been cleaned out. |
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· Rag Hill Road/The Avenue junction: David Hodge had a possible solution in mind to relieve the occasional flooding that would entail the existing pond being cleaned, with the land owner’s permission. It is likely that this has silted up over many years and the dug out matter would be used to increase the height of the surrounding banking. |
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· Approach Road; where flooding occurs between Beaconshaw and junction with Clarks Lane, channels had been dug across the verge to take the water into the field. |
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(3) Potholes |
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It was disappointing to note that nearly all of the reported potholes are still to be filled – 6 weeks after reporting. |
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(b) Permissive extension of FP23 – Church Hill: Bob David indicated that he had still to contact the landowner. |
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(g) FP25 conversion to bridleway: In the absence of Eileen Pearce, Ian Mitchell reported that Surrey County Council was still examining this claim that appeared to be similar to a claim turned down in 1988. He had been asked by the County to check the Parish Council’s archive for as much background information as possible about previous correspondence. |
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8. Notified Matters |
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(a) Old Lane Drainage; The Clerk drew attention to a letter from the Residents Committee raising four points concerning |
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(1) Future maintenance: It was agreed that Jon Allbutt would obtain quotations for the costs of clearance of the ditch after which the matter would be considered again. |
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(3) Overhanging Trees; John Allbutt indicated that he was awaiting quotations. |
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(4) Maintenance of the gullies at the top of Old Lane: These gullies had recently been cleaned out by Surrey Highways. |
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(b) Annual Parish Meeting: It was agreed that this would be held on Tuesday the 6th May and that detailed arrangements would be discussed at the next meeting. |
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9. Reports from Members and Outside Organisations |
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(a) County Councillor: David Hodge reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Tandridge Local Committee: he was pleased to confirm that grants would be made to Tatsfield Scouts, The Women’s Institute and Tatsfield in Bloom. |
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(b) District Councillor: Bob David reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Post Office: Although Tatsfield Post Office had not been scheduled for closure, there was still a possibility that this decision could be changed and he urged everyone to continue supporting the Post office. |
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(c) Transport Matters: Nothing to report |
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(d) Tatsfield Youth Project: Jon Allbutt reported that there would be a meeting with the Surrey Association in the near future. |
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(e) Tatsfield Community Responders: Jon Allbutt reported the Responders were awaiting delivery of new SMS mobile phones. He also reported that the Responders had been busy over recent weeks. |
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(f) Parish Emergency Plan: Jon Allbutt reported that he was hoping to have a routine meeting with the Emergency Planning Officers of Tandridge DC and Surrey CC |
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(h) Village Hall Sandy Philibert reported that: |
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(1) Budget/Hire Charge/Conditions for Hire proposals for 2008/2009 had been agreed. |
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(3) Stolen lead flashing over the Green Room entrance roof was being dealt with by Jon Allbutt. |
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(4) A second estimate had been obtained for checking the Hall’s electrical installation. |
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(5) The committee had requested working PIR lights on the Parish Room for hall users. |
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(6) Detailed costing for the acoustic improvements had been obtained. |
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10. Parish Council Property |
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(a) Surgery & Parish Room: |
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(1) Broadband Connection: Giles Hawkes reported that he had negotiated with TalkTalk for a full broadband service at a cost of £16.39 p.c.m. to include VAT, all calls and line rental., that he would arrange to circulate details of the proposed Broadband connection for consideration by members. It was unanimously agreed to proceed and Giles Hawkes agreed to make the arrangements. |
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(2) Central Heating: Giles Hawkes reported that the heating system had been serviced and was now working properly. |
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(4) Computer equipment: Giles Hawkes reported on his proposals for the purchase of a laptop computer, projector and screen - a total expenditure of £950.00. This was agreed, subject to approval of the final details. |
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(5) Salting of Carpark: Giles Hawkes indicated the cost of a spreader was £179.80 and of a storage £252.60. It was agreed that further consideration would be given to exactly what equipment was required and how it was to be stored. |
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11. Parish Owned Land |
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(a) Westmore Green Playground: Jon Allbutt indicated that he was awaiting confirmation of a date for a meeting with the interested parties |
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(b) Westmore Green Notice Board: It was agreed that Desmond Bishop would be asked to tidy and clean this Notice Board. |
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(c) Parish Land: Jon Allbutt indicated that he was still awaiting an up-to-date fencing quotation for Shaw Road Triangle and Kemsley Wood. It was agreed that adjoining owners should be notified of the intention to erect a fence to delineate the boundary of Kemsley Wood and the Clerk was asked to draft a letter. Jon Allbutt indicated that he had noticed some rubbish dumping on the Shaw Road Triangle and he had made some enquiries as a result of which most of the rubbish had been removed. It was also noted that the barrier at one end of Hayes Pasture was in need of repair and Jon Allbutt agreed to deal with this. |
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(d) Ricketts Hill Road: The Clerk reported that the resident had accepted the terms of the wayleave for access to his property and he had submitted a draft deed for approval. |
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12. Meetings to Attend/Correspondence- |
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(a) Chelsham & Farleigh PC APM: Tuesday 15 April at Farleigh Hall, Farleigh Court Road at 8.00 p.m. The Chairman to attend. |
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13. Any Other Business - None |
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The Meeting closed at 10.35 p.m. |
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Subjects raised in Public Adjournments |
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1. Tatsfield Green Footpath |
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January to March 2008 |
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