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October to December 2007 |
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MINUTES of a Meeting of Tatsfield Parish Council held on the 8th October 2007 in the Parish Room, Westmore Green, Tatsfield commencing at 8.00 p.m. |
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Present: Mr Ian Mitchell (in the chair) Mr Jon Allbutt Mr Giles Hawkes Mrs Carol Jordan Eileen Pearce Mrs S Philibert Mr Greg Watkins |
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Mr Bob David (Tandridge DC Councillor) |
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Mr David Hodge (Surrey CC Councillor) |
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1. Apologies - None |
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3. Minutes |
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The Minutes of the meeting held on the 10th September 2007 were approved and signed as a correct record. |
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5 Tatsfield School |
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The Chairman reported that there had been a further meeting on the 2nd October with Steve Evans and Kathryn Tyas representing Surrey, CC Hilary Harber, Carol Gibbard and Jill Hancock representing the School and Jon Allbutt, Greg Watkins and himself representing the Parish Council along with the Clerk and Tony Dawkins (Parish Council’s Surveyor). He regretted that very little progress had been made as hardly any of the Action points agreed at the meeting on 21st September had been dealt with. |
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(a) Current Applications: Eileen Pearce reported on the current applications and the action agreed is as listed in Appendix A |
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(b) Sundry Planning Matters: |
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(1) Parish Planning Policy: It was noted that this was to be the subject of a Public Meeting on the 10th October 2007. Eileen Pearce outlined the arrangements for the meeting and it was agreed that the Chairman would outline the limitations that existed on the responses that the Parish Council could make to relation to planning applications, as there appeared to be considerable misunderstanding of the position. |
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(i) Public Footpaths & Bridleways: The Chairman drew attention to a statement made by Surrey Highways that motor vehicles must give way to pedestrians on public footpaths and bridleways. |
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(c) Planning Councillor: Sandy Philibert |
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7. Finance |
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(a) Grants: Applications for grants had been received from Tatsfield in Bloom, Oxted CAB, Tatsfield WI and Tatsfield Art Group. The Finance Committee would consider these when drawing up the Budget for submission at the next meeting. |
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8. Highways & Rights of Way |
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(a) Highway Pollution – Paynesfield Road: The Clerk confirmed that he had written to the business responsible for the escape of effluent on 17 September requesting that action was taken to prevent any further escape within 28 days. No reply had been received but it was believed that some action had been taken following the letter. It was agreed that members would monitor the situation and report any recurrence to the Clerk so that the matter could be reported to the Environment Agency. |
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(b) General Highway Matters: |
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(1) Drainage Gullies: Sandy Philibert reported that Surrey Highways had carried out some gully cleaning but there were still gullies that were blocked. These would require individual attention and she had the matter in hand. |
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(2) Highway Repairs: She was aware of some potholes that required attention and she would be pressing for them to be dealt with. |
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(1) FP25 – Clarks Lane to the Avenue: The Clerk reported that he had received notification of an application to modify the Definitive Map by upgrading FP25 to a bridleway. Mrs Ann Hayes who had lodged the application had supported with 15 user evidence forms covering a period from 1950 to the present day. The Parish Council was being given an opportunity to submit comments on the question of the public status of the route and on the application. The Chairman agreed to look back in the Council minutes because it was believed that, at one time, there had been a footpath alongside a bridle path. |
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9. Notified Matters |
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(a) Westmore Green: |
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(1) Playground: Jon Allbutt indicated that he was in touch with Ann Chapman and would be arranging a meeting in the near future to discuss the refurbishment of the Playground. The provision of any new equipment would be the subject of careful consideration. |
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10. Reports |
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(a) County Councillor: David Hodge reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Bridleway Obstruction: He understood that this matter had now been resolved. |
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(2) Highway Repair: He believed that the Contact Centre was working well and he had been able to telephone the Centre without difficulty contrary to reports that it was difficult to do so. He also believed that there would be a considerable improvement in the way highway repairs were dealt once the newly appointed Community Highway Officer had completed training and was on duty covering the Oxted/Warlingham/Tatsfield area. This would not be until January but he would personal arrange for the officer to meet Sandy Philibert as soon as possible. He also noted that the upper part of Paynesfield Road was in need of re-surfacing and he would endeavour to have this placed on the waiting list. |
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(b) District Councillor: Bob David reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Oyster Cards: He was endeavouring to clarify with Transport for London the eligibility of 16-18 year olds for free or half price Oyster cards. |
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(c) Police: Ian Mitchell indicated that the matters affecting Old Lane had been discussed at a recent meeting of the Police and the Local Authority. No action would be taken in relation to the damage caused in Paynesfield because of lack of evidence. Locally there had some thefts of power tools and builders equipment. It was agreed that members would respond individually to the Policing Plan Survey. |
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(d) Biggin Hill Airport: Ian Mitchell reported that he had checked that the complaints line was working as difficulties had been reported. He would be attending the next Joint Consultative Meeting on 18 October. There appeared to be an increased amount of overflying of Tatsfield by small private aircraft and he would raise this at the meeting. He would also raise the question of jet aircraft noise and whether any measures had been implemented to reduce it. |
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(e) Transport Matters: The Chairman indicated that he had attended the recent Surrey Passenger Transport Assembly and he understood that the 464 bus service continued to serve Tatsfield only because there were no facilities in Biggin Hill for it to park. He considered that the Parish Council should investigate the possibility of financing a service to Oxted. This would need a survey to establish local needs and he suggested that this was a matter that should be covered in the forthcoming Budget. |
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(f) Tatsfield Youth Project: Jon Allbutt reported that the Project had organised a very successful “Build Your Own Website” event over the last weekend. |
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(g) Tatsfield Responders: Jon Allbutt indicated that the Responders continued to operate despite the fact that there were still organisational problems with SE Coast Ambulance Service. |
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(h) Parish Emergency Plan: Nothing to report. |
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(i) Risk Assessment: The Clerk was asked to re-circulate the details to all members. |
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11. Village Hall |
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(a) Management Committee Report: Sandy Philibert reported that the AGM had been held satisfactorily and all the existing officers had been re-appointed. There had been no co-opted members appointed. |
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12. Property |
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Surgery & Parish Room; |
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(1) Parish Room: Giles Hawkes reported that a second quotation was in hand for an electrical safety survey. The Parish Room lock had been replaced and keys issued to all members. |
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(b) Greens & Other Land |
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(1) Old Lane/Barnfield Rd: The Chairman reported that the Clerk had investigated the title deeds relating to Tatsfield Green and whether or not the Parish Council owned the soil of Old Lane. His investigations had revealed that there was some room for doubt and full details had therefore been submitted to the Parish Council’s Solicitor, Roger Taylor, for an opinion. When this was available, details would be circulated to all members. In the meantime Richard Coles, TDC Waste Enforcement Officer, had been informed of the position. |
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(c) Pond: Jon Allbutt indicated that he was still awaiting a survey by the Downlands Project before instituting any work to the Pond. The previous contractors had not been re-employed as he considered that they were not maintaining the pond correctly. Sandy Philibert indicated that she was pursuing matters with Cornhill Allianz as to the size and wording of the signs and would report back. |
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13. Meetings to Attend – Greg Watkins was attending a meeting of Tatsfield School governors as the PC’s representative on 9 October and further meetings on the appointment of a new head beginning on 18 October. |
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15. Any Other Business |
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(a) Council Meetings: Greg Watkins asked if consideration could be given to commencing meetings at 7.30 p.m. It was agreed that this would be considered at the next meeting. |
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(b) Christmas Meeting: It was agreed that a special effort would be made to attract a greater public attendance. |
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The Meeting closed at 11.00 p.m. |
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CURRENT APPLICATIONS:- |
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06/0740 |
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07/1438 |
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07/1474 |
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07/1568 |
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07/1559 |
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Recommendation: Objection based on unneighbourliness and exacerbation of parking/visibility at junction. |
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MINUTES of a Meeting of Tatsfield Parish Council held on the 12th November 2007 in the Parish Room, Westmore Green, Tatsfield commencing at 8.00 p.m. |
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Present: Mr Ian Mitchell (in the chair) Mr Jon Allbutt Mr Giles Hawkes Mrs Carol Jordan Eileen Pearce Mrs S Philibert Mr Greg Watkins |
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Mr Bob David (Tandridge DC Councillor) |
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Mr David Hodge (Surrey CC Councillor) |
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And 4 parishioners. |
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1. Apologies - None |
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3. Minutes |
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The Minutes of the meeting held on the 8th October 2007 were approved and signed as a correct record |
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The Chairman indicated that there were three main issues outstanding. These related to (1) the type and extent of the lighting of the vehicular and pedestrian access to the School (2) the future maintenance of the Hall/ Surgery car park area and (3) the details of the land transfer. Other issues had already been resolved without too much difficulty. |
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He explained that originally Surrey had proposed bollard lighting for the whole area but had decided to change to column lighting without any consultation. The Parish Council had made strong representations both to Surrey and to Tandridge DC and, as a consequence, Surrey was now proposing that there should only be column lighting where children would be crossing the vehicular access and bollard lighting elsewhere. Precise details had not yet been provided and the Parish Council had been informed that this information would not be available for 2/3 weeks. |
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On the second issue, there was a choice between making Surrey totally responsible or continuing to be responsible for maintenance, as at present and accepting a commuted sum to compensate for the increased usage brought by the School. At present, Surrey had offered a sum of £30,000. Professional advice to the Parish Council indicated that this was an insufficient figure but it seemed that Surrey was at present unwilling to increase that amount and consequently the matter required very careful consideration. |
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As far as the land transfer was concerned, the Chairman reported that, whilst some documents had now been submitted to the Parish Council Solicitor for approval, it had not been possible to make very much progress because an updated plan and other information was required in order to deal with them. Some of the information was obviously dependent upon the first two matters already referred to. |
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Jon Allbutt indicated that he considered that the Parish Council had endeavoured to propose improvements to the specification that were cost effective. He also drew attention to the proposed MUGA on which a decision would not be finally made until 10 December 2007. This would be on School property and was unique. |
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(a) Current Applications: Sandy Philibert reported on the current applications and the action agreed is as listed in Appendix A |
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(b) Sundry Planning Matters: |
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(1) Parish Planning Policy: Eileen Pearce reported that, following the Public Meeting held on 10th October when some 40 members of the public had attended, she had circulated the final draft of the Policy to members for comment. After discussion, it was agreed unanimously that this Policy (a copy of which is attached to these Minutes) be adopted. It was also agreed that copies should be distributed to members of the Development Control Committee of Tandridge DC. |
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(c) Planning Councillor: Greg Watkins A/P GW |
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7. Finance |
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(a) Grants: The Clerk reported that he had received an application for grants from Tatsfield Art Group of £170 for its Easter 2008 Workshop of £170. This was agreed and would be paid in March 2008. An application had also been received from Tatsfield Bloom for 2008/9. A grant of £900 was agreed. |
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8. Highways & Rights of Way |
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(a) Highway Pollution: As it appeared that there had no further escape of effluent, it was agreed that no further was required. |
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(b) General Highway Matters: Sandy Philibert indicated that she had a meeting with Angelo Lamprou, the new Highway Steward, and David Hodge to discuss matters affecting the village. She had circulated members with details and indicated that she would continue regular checks to ensure that matters were dealt with. A/P SP |
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(c) Lorries Off Rural Roads (LORD): Carol Jordan indicated that, while she considered that it would be beneficial for the Parish Council to be represented at general meetings of this Group, she was not certain that there was any benefit to be gained from her being a member of the Committee. She would be attending a Committee meeting on 16 November but would be unable to attend the next General Meeting on 29 November. A/P CJ |
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(d) Rights of Way Matters: |
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(1) FP25 – Clarks Lane to The Avenue: It was agreed that Surrey CC should be asked that if the application to create a bridleway was granted, the existing public footpath should be separated from and parallel with the bridleway because if this was not the case, the surface would be cut by horse traffic and made impossible for pedestrians. |
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9. Notified Matters |
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(a) Westmore Green |
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(i) Playground: Giles Hawkes indicated that he was arranging a meeting of interested parties to discuss what improvements could be made to the Playground. A/P GH |
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(ii) Westmore Green Encroachment: Jon Allbutt indicated that he was producing a scheme to deal with this problem and would submit his proposals as soon as possible. A/P JA |
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(b) Affordable Housing Needs Survey: The Chairman reported that there had been a meeting with Mona Johansson, the Rural Housing Enabler, on Monday, 22nd October and she had subsequently submitted a specimen questionnaire and accompanying letter for consideration. The Clerk had circulated this and he asked members to submit their comments as soon as possible. A/P ALL |
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(c) SCAPTC: Eileen indicated that she would be attending a meeting on Saturday 17 November. A/P EP |
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(d) Surrey Hills Society: Eileen Pearce indicated that there was a movement to form a Society to promote the Surrey Hills Country Park. As part of the Parish came within the Park, she considered that the Parish Council should support the proposal. It was agreed that she would prepare and circulate a case that could be considered at the next meeting. |
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10. Reports |
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(a) County Councillor: David Hodge reported on the efforts being made by Surrey Highways to deal with highway maintenance problems. |
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(b) District Councillor: Bob David reported on the following matters: - |
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(1) Oyster Cards: He had now established that only persons living with the Greater London Authority area were eligible and consequently residents of Tatsfield were not eligible for these cards |
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(c) Police: Ian Mitchell indicated that he felt that it would be right to write to the Chief Constable expressing regret that PCSO Tom Griffin was leaving the district to qualify as a Police Officer and drawing attention to the splendid service he had given the Village. A/P IM |
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(d) Biggin Hill Airport: Ian Mitchell reported that he had raised the question of a blast screen to deflect jet engine noise and he had been given to understand that there was insufficient room to install such a shield. The airport director was re-issuing advice to pilots to avoid flying over Tatsfield and was considering modifying the advisory routing for take-offs. The airport had received 18 complaints about aircraft noise in the third quarter of the year compared with 82 in the third quarter of 2006. |
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(e) Transport Matters: Greg Watkins had nothing to report. |
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(f) Tatsfield Youth Project: Jon Allbutt that a meeting was planned and that everything was going smoothly. |
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(g) Tatsfield Community Responders: Jon Allbutt said he was pleased to report some new equipment had at long last been received. |
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(h) Parish Emergency Plan: Nothing to report. |
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(i) Risk Assessment: The Clerk reported that he had received reports from Jon Allbutt for Westmore Green, Ashen Shaw, Kemsley Woods and King Edward VII Garden. These did not require any action. |
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11. Village Hall |
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(a) Management Committee Report: Sandy Philibert had circulated a written report and this was noted. |
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12. Property |
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(1) Parish Room: Giles Hawkes indicated that he had arranged for the internal door to be repaired where the new lock had been fitted. He had obtained also the Key Box. It was agreed that Margaret Parsons should be provided with a key to the Parish Room to simplify use by village organisations. He reported that he could arrange for a Broadband connection for £16 per calendar month to include rental and all calls and a router. He was authorised to arrange for this to be connected. A/P GH |
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(2) Village Hall; It was noted that the defective slab on one of the Disabled Access ramps had been repaired. |
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(b) Greens & Other Land |
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(1) Old Lane/Barnfield Rd: The Chairman reported that the Parish Council’s Solicitor, Roger Taylor, had now indicated that, in his opinion, it was unlikely that the Parish Council had acquired legal title to Old and he did not consider that the council was under any responsibility for the repair of the roadway. |
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14. Meetings to Attend - |
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(a) Tatsfield School Governors: 21 November – Greg Watkins. A new chairman of governors was due to be elected. A/P GW |
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16. Any Other Business |
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(a) Tree Warden Scheme: Eileen Pearce indicated she would arrange for details to be published in the Parish Magazine. |
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(b) Xmas Tree: Jon Allbutt indicated that he had received several offers of trees from residents. A/P JA |
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(c) Crossways Court: Jon Allbutt indicated Tandridge DC had approved the planted of a laurel hedge. Sponsorship was now being sought to cover the costs involved. A/P JA |
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The Meeting closed at 10.15 p.m. |
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1. Tatsfield School |
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PLANNING` |
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07/1318 Woodcote, Johns Road |
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07/1570 Pippins, Ricketts Hill Road |
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07/1652 Westwood Farm Barn, Clacket Lane |
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07/1632 98 Paynesfield Road |
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07/1630 Dell Cottage, Goatsfield Road |
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Recommendation: Objection to loss of small dwelling |
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07/1571 Parkwood Lodge, Rag Hill Road |
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Recommendation: Objection based loss of hedgerow and development in MGB and possible breach of agricultural condition. |
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07/1748 Manor Livery, Manor Road |
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Demolition of single storey extension and porch; erection of 2 storey side extension and porch |
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07/1758 7 Crossways |
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MINUTES of a Meeting of Tatsfield Parish Council held on the 10th December 2007 in the Parish Room, Westmore Green, Tatsfield commencing at 7.30 p.m. |
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Present: Mr Ian Mitchell (in the chair) |
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Mr Jon Allbutt Mr Giles Hawkes Mrs Carol Jordan Eileen Pearce Mrs Sandy Philibert Mr Greg Watkins |
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In Attendance: Mr John Sandiford (Clerk), |
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Mr Bob David (Tandridge DC Councillor) |
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2. Minutes |
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The Minutes of the meeting held on the 12th November 2007 were approved and signed as a correct record |
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(i) Crossways Court (Para 15 Any Other Business): Jon Allbutt indicated that some sponsorship had already been forthcoming and he was confident that the hedge could be planted in the near future. A/P JA |
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4.Tatsfield School |
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The Chairman summarised the position and indicated that Jon Allbutt, Greg Watkins and himself had negotiated the best terms possible and it now only remained for the documents to be finalised. It had been hoped that this would have done in time for the meeting but this was not the case and it might therefore be necessary to call a special meeting to authorise signature of the documents in accordance with the terms that he had outlined. |
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Eileen Pearce indicated that she considered that this meeting would also provide the opportunity to discuss the Council’s Planning Protocol that had been drawn up in consultation with the Director of Planning but which she and other members felt was unduly restrictive on the ability of members to consult local residents as to their views on planning applications. |
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(b) Current Applications: Greg Watkins reported on the current applications and the action agreed is as listed in Appendix A. |
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6. Finance |
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(a) Payments: The payments listed in Appendix B were approved. |
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7. Highways & Rights of Way |
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(a) Upgrading of FP25 (The Avenue to Clarks Lane) to Bridleway: Eileen Pearce indicated that she would check that she had submitted a suggestion for the bridleway to run parallel with and separate from the footpath so as to ensure that the surface of the footpath was not damaged by horse traffic in such a way as to make it impassable for pedestrians. A/P EP |
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(b) General Highway Matters: Sandy Philibert summarised the written report she had circulated to members detailing matters that were receiving ongoing attention. |
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8. Notified Matters |
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(a) ESPLG Tandridge Group: Eileen Pearce indicated that the formation of this Group was being considered at a meeting taking place that evening and she would report back at the next Parish Council meeting. A/P EP |
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(a) County Councillor: There was no report in the absence of David Hodge. The Chairman drew attention to an e-mail received from the Chief Executive of Surrey CC indicating that, as one of the Council’s key partners in delivering better outcomes for Surrey, the Audit Commission wished to include the Parish Council as a stakeholder to consult as part of the Commission’s Corporate Assessment of the County Council. |
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(b) District Councillor: Bob David reported on the following matters:- |
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(1) Council Tax 2008/9: It seemed almost certain that the increase would be just under 5% to keep below the Government’s cap of 5%. |
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(c) Police: Ian Mitchell indicated that he had written expressing the Parish Council’s appreciation of the services that PCSO Tom Griffin had provided during his time in the Parish. He also reported a litter bin fire on Tatsfield Green and the removal of a section of hedging in an apparent attempt to enter the car park opposite the church possibly as a prelude to fly-tipping. |
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(d) Biggin Hill Airport: Nothing to report. |
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(e) Transport Matters: Greg Watkins indicated that he hoped to be able bring forward proposals for local transport in the New Year. |
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(f) Tatsfield Youth Project: Nothing to report. |
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(g) Tatsfield Community Responders: Nothing to report. |
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(h) Parish Emergency Plan: Nothing to report. |
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(i) Risk Assessment: Nothing to report. |
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10. Parish Council Property |
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(a) Surgery & Parish Room; Giles Hawkes reported that he had arranged for Keletrix to carry out a detailed examination of the electrical installation and this had revealed serious defects to the two wiring circuits requiring urgent attention. In addition, updated circuit breakers were required for the ring mains and the main trip board required replacing. The kettle also required replacing. All of this work had been done and a certificate issued at a cost of £980 + VAT. This compared very favourably with the previous estimate given for an inspection only. |
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He also confirmed that the repair to the internal door would be dealt with in the New Year. He would arrange to circulate details of the proposed Broadband connection for consideration by members |
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He had also discovered that there was a long-standing water leak in the Surgery and he would arrange for this to be investigated. . A/P GH |
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(a) Westmore Green Playground: Giles Hawkes reported that a meeting would take place in the New Year. |
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A/P GH |
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(b) Litter Bin Vandalism: The Clerk confirmed that he had lodged a claim and was awaiting confirmation that it had been agreed. |
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12. Meetings to Attend/Correspondence- |
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(a) Tatsfield School: Greg Watkins reported that he was playing an active part in the appointment of a new head teacher. The post was being advertised and it was hoped that an appointment would be made in January. |
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13. Any Other Business |
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(a) Parish Coffee Morning: Sandy Philibert agreed to draw a rota for the coming months. |
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(b) Westmore Road Pavement: Eileen Pearce asked if a handrail could be installed to assist pedestrians in icy conditions at the corner with the shops. It was pointed out that the consent of the property owner would be required and it was doubted whether this would be forthcoming. |
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(c) Christmas Carol Concert: It was agreed that consideration would be given at the next meeting to a grant being made towards the expenses of the Lewisham Concert Band. |
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The Meeting closed at 10.32 p.m. |
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RESULTS:- |
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CURRENT APPLICATIONS:- |
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07/1954 |
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07/1877 Aston Acres, Kemsley Road |
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